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hmmm,well i got a different impression while watching one documentary about him...there,it was clearly said that after he ended up in jail,he started leaning more towards being a nazi...


Sure, media can impress people. :)
It's important what Varg said, and not what someone else did. But however, some people comprehend his words, some don't.

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A Burzum Story: Part IX - The Tomorrow


There are several characters named Varg Vikernes in Norway. One is the demonized, alienated, pilloried and ostracized bugbear denounced by the Jew-press and the so-called judicial system in Norway. He is not real, he never was real and never will be real, but he is loosely based on a real 19-year-old who in 1993 publicly expressed his anger at a modern world gone mad. The sick modern world moved on, deeper into Hell on a road paved with good intentions, but Varg Vikernes froze in time and was forced to live on in the fixed and fictional reality created by the dregs in the Jew-press and the "Norwegian inquisition". Neither the lie-propagandists in the media nor the "inquisitors" manage to adjust to reality in this context, so even today we can from time to time hear the squeaks of the low-brow journalist-pigs; "witch!", "witch!", "burn him.", "burn him!", "burn him!!", and the people in the so-called judicial system are certainly no better.

Another Varg is the prisoner, writing articles, like this one, to stay sane, but also to not let the false accusations and biased lie-propaganda stand unopposed. He is real, but only for as long as the siege lasts. If the lies stop coming from the media-scum, and if the so-called judicial system stops its out-of-touch-with-reality processes, he will cease to exist and fade away into oblivion. He is real only because he has to be. He is simply the wall that protects the sanity, honour and life of the real Varg Vikernes. Like the fortresses of Europe this wall was not built for fun, but because of necessity.

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The fictional Count-character based on the antisocial teenage Varg is perhaps infinitely more interesting and attractive (and not least marketable) than the real (in 2006) 33-year-old me, but he is not real! The picture of Varg "the Count" Vikernes presented to especially Norwegians by the media is a false picture and it is about time you realize that. Whether you are a fan, foe or friend you should relate to reality, and not to some media-character created by the journalists also for commercial reasons. Stop giving me credit or criticism for something I never did or for something I never was, for statements that weren't mine or for advocating an ideology or religion that I never even knew. Stop attacking me, or indeed embracing me, on false pretence. When I am attacked or embraced by others I want them to do that only when and if they have a good reason to do so, and not because they believe in the lies of the media or the so-called judicial system.

The real Varg Vikernes is not that interesting, I think, and there is not much to say about me, and in any case, when I get out of prison, whenever that may be, I will disappear from public view anyhow. As I see it I am a prisoner on a ship ("The Sodom & Gomorrah") - the modern world - heading for disaster, and when I am released from captivity I will jump overboard and swim back to dry land a.s.a.p.. I don't want anything to do with this thoroughly sick so-called civilization, so I will do my best to get away from it all. There will be no more articles like this one, no more (strictly speaking) unnecessary communication with strangers in the modern world and no interviews. I will publish a few books, possibly using a pseudonym in order to stay anonymous, and perhaps a Burzum album or two, but that's it.

I say this because I have been told that some people expect a lot from me when I am released. Well; don't expect anything. Unless You look for my books or albums You can expect to never hear from or about me again. I don't want anything to do with You or the thoroughly sick world You live in. Count me out. I am going home, to the Norwegian countryside, to the wilderness and fresh air, to a healthy farm-life and Mother Earth's embrace. You can have Your plagued urban brothel and Your sick mongrel Hell on Earth to Yourself.

If You indeed share the thoughts on this with me that is fine, and I salute You for it, but unlike me You can do something about this anytime, and I don't understand why You haven't already. I'm in prison, so unfortunately I cannot escape from the influence of the modern Sodom and Gomorrah just yet. What is Your excuse?

Varg "Lífþrasir" Vikernes
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well...they were filming him,so,they were his words...but...however,you had me intrriged by what you said so i looked it up and,i stumbled across this:

As many people might know I have been condemned a lot because I have used a number of "political incorrect" terms to describe my own ideological foundation. I have used terms such as Satanism, nationalism, racism or racialism, Paganism or Heathendom/Heathenism and even "nazism".

Some of the terms I have used have been rather inaccurate, and I realize that people react to the different terms differently, depending on where they come from or who they are. A Scandinavian, for instance, has no good reasons to emotionally react negatively to "nazism", but I understand that a Slav has a perfectly good reason to do so. While the German "nazis" behaved exemplary in Denmark and Norway during WWII, they certainly didn't behave exemplary in Poland or the former Soviet Union. In Norway only about 0,03% of the population was killed in WWII (and the vast majority was actually killed by the Allies), while for example in Byelorussia as much as 25% of the population was killed - and had a lot to do with the Germans' incredibly lowbrow and surprisingly ignorant view on the Slavs and their culture.

You might think the German's stupid view on the Slavs is a "nazi" thing, but (unfortunately?) it seems to be more like a German view, and its roots go back at least to the middle ages - when some German crusader veterans, the Maria Knights and the Swordbrother Knights, joined forces (and formed the Teutonic Order) and went to Christianize the "primitive" heathens (Balts and Slavs) in Prussia, Memel, Kurland, Livland, Estland, Polotsk, Pskov, Ingermanland, et cetera.

However, the Norwegian "nazis" never had a negative view on the Slavs, and even the Norwegian SS-volunteers reacted negatively to the Germans' behaviour in the Soviet Union, so as a Norwegian I never really thought about the fact that it might offend Slavs when I - a Norwegian - occasionally used the term "nazism" to describe my ideological foundation. Naturally I never had the intention to offend or alienate Slavs. Personally I have a very positive view on Slavs and Slavonic culture, and I think it is sad if people think otherwise.

The reason I have been drawn to and occasionally have expressed support for "nazism" is mainly because many of the Norwegian (and German) "nazis" embraced our Pagan religion as our blood-religion and they rejected Judeo-Christianity as Jewish heresy - and they were the first to do so in a long, long time! I have also experienced that most of the people supporting me or what I stand for are so-called "nazis" - while almost everybody else has just condemned me and then boycotted me and everything I have done. What makes me different from the "nazis" are basically three things; unlike them I am not socialistic (not even on a national level), I am not materialistic and I believe in (the ancient Scandinavian!) democracy.

So, since I am not a "nazi" I began to use another term, in the late 90ies. I did it not just to avoid confusion, but also to find a term more suitable and accurate than the other terms I had used. This new term was odalism, from Norse óðal ("homeland", "allodium", "allodial law", "nobility", "noble", "inherited goods", "fatherland", "land property", "distinguished family", "distinguished", "splendid", "kin" and "the nation"). This term replaces everything positive about all the other -isms I have ever used, and in it lies Paganism, traditional nationalism, racialism and environmentalism. It is not only a more accurate but also a more inclusive term that can be used by all Europeans (and others too for that sake). Finally, and perhaps most importantly, it is not a term tainted by history.

If we have a positive relationship to our homeland, to our blood, to our race, to our religion and to our culture we will not destroy any of this with modern "civilization" (id est capitalism, materialism, Judeo-Christianity, pollution, urbanization, race mixing, Americanization, socialism, globalization, et cetera). The "nazi ghost" has scared millions of Europeans from caring about their blood and homeland for sixty years now, and it is about time we banish this ghost and again start to think and care about the things that (whether we like it or not) are important to us.

Varg Vikernes
(July 2005)


so you can see why it would seem to me that he was into nazi stuff...if he had explained himself like this on that documentary,it would be a completely different story... :)

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It is quite interesting that the man who speaks of ancient european moral values and honorable virtues, is seen as lunatic by people. But it's not puzzling, is it?

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:lol: :lol: :lol: this is funny...the battle of texts :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Rider_Of_Theli wrote:
It is quite interesting that the man who speaks of ancient european moral values and honorable virtues, is seen as lunatic by people. But it's not puzzling, is it?


i don't think of him as a lunatic for what he believes in,but what he practises...eating human brains...killing people and stuff???does that seem normal to you?

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so you can see why it would seem to me that he was into nazi stuff...if he had explained himself like this on that documentary,it would be a completely different story... :)


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Some of the terms I have used have been rather inaccurate, and I realize that people react to the different terms differently, depending on where they come from or who they are.



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The reason I have been drawn to and occasionally have expressed support for "nazism" is mainly because many of the Norwegian (and German) "nazis" embraced our Pagan religion as our blood-religion and they rejected Judeo-Christianity as Jewish heresy


...so, did you even noticed this?

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i don't think of him as a lunatic for what he believes in,but what he practises...eating human brains...killing people and stuff???does that seem normal to you?



:laughing: :lol: :lol:
Where did you get that thing about eating human brain?

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yes,i have...but that only proves that he has supported nazism,the reason for doing so is not the issue here,the point is he was somewhat a nazi....i also said that he was into scandiavian religion and as you or whoever said-odinism...if you read my previous posts you might have noticed that,but,he was also into nazism...and that is all i wanted to say...in the end,i don't care what he is...as long as he is safely locked up :lol:

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i am talking here about the whole band mayhem...well...if you're involved with people who are commiting suicides,eating each others brains,burning churches and killing one another...you did not end up in prison for no reason... 8)

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i am talking here about the whole band mayhem...well...if you're involved with people who are commiting suicides,eating each others brains,burning churches and killing one another...you did not end up in prison for no reason... 8)


He ended in prison for killing one of such people, not for someone's suicide, and not for eating other's brain. But still we need a scapegoat, right? someone to blame...
(this is a topic about burzum, not mayhem)

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yes,i have...but that only proves that he has supported nazism,the reason for doing so is not the issue here,the point is he was somewhat a nazi....i also said that he was into scandiavian religion and as you or whoever said-odinism...if you read my previous posts you might have noticed that,but,he was also into nazism...


It depends what do you mean by being "into" certain ideology. He is definitely an Odinist, but not really a "nazi". If he supported particular aspects of "nazism"(I have no problem with that, but not all can agree), as said, that doesn't make him a nazi in primal sense..

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in the end,i don't care what he is...as long as he is safely locked up :lol:


I must dissapoint you.. He's probably already out! If not, he'll be released very soon. :twisted:

But Varg has a mesage for everyone:
"I don't want anything to do with You or the thoroughly sick world You live in. Count me out. I am going home, to the Norwegian countryside, to the wilderness and fresh air, to a healthy farm-life and Mother Earth's embrace. You can have Your plagued urban brothel and Your sick mongrel Hell on Earth to Yourself. "
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yes yes...frolicing in the sun and hunting animals and killing them with his bare hands and teeth :lol: i'm just kidding :wink: well,i hope he learned a lesson in prison and will not make the same mistakes that put him there in the first place...but...people never change...so...i think it is just a matter of time until he ends up there again... :? dunno,just my opinion...

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yes yes...frolicing in the sun and hunting animals and killing them with his bare hands and teeth :lol: i'm just kidding :wink: well,i hope he learned a lesson in prison and will not make the same mistakes that put him there in the first place...but...people never change...so...i think it is just a matter of time until he ends up there again... :? dunno,just my opinion...


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cheers! :P


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